Within the paranormal community some call Noreen Renier "the single most amazing case and crime solving psychic in the world" and "the most credible psychic" in the past 100 years.    Renier herself claims she has "a track record that no one can beat."

Her appearances include the Larry King show, Psychic Detectives, Good Morning America, the Nancy Grace show, CBS Inside Edition, Unsolved Mysteries, Sightings, Geraldo, Hour Magazine with Gary Collins, America's Most Wanted, FOX News with Greta Van Susteren, Psychic Investigators, the Joan Rivers Show and the Catherine Crier program.

This is the woman who describes herself as a "super psychic" and opens her web site with the claim that she "has worked on over 500 unsolved cases with city, county, and state Law Enforcement Agencies in 38 states and 6 foreign countries."   Recently she increased that to more than 600 cases yet has never publicly disclosed a listing beyond a few law enforcement agencies she claims sought her assistance directly on their behalf.

Nor has Noreen Renier ever publicly identified and outlined exactly where these cases took place and what --- if anything --- she did.   Equally important are not just the 600 plus unsolved cases she claims to have worked on --- while furnishing no evidence they actually existed --- but how many she solved --- if any --- using psychic powers.

That tally is apparently zero once deceptions are eliminated and new evidence examined.   As showcased on this web site Noreen Renier has even exaggerated before millions of TV viewers and repeatedly replaces reality with fictitious visions.

Even a TV producer who helped create a psychic detective show quickly realized that Renier liked to talk about hundreds of cases but apparently wasn't eager to describe what those cases were or to provide complete logs.   As an example her cases may relate to everything from zoo birds flying away to missing pecan pies in a bakery.

Ninety percent of her cases may involve contact with outer space entities or beings that exist in other dimensions.  

Indeed she claims over 600 cases but hasn't disclosed where, when or what kind.   And she has not provided a complete listing of police agencies who she claims have paid her fees up to $1000 per hour to examine "dead file" cases up to 40 years old.   She has even stated that more than one state has provided her with twenty cases at a time to examine --- but she never mentions which states and police agencies these cases originate from.

There is no public evidence that any state has handed her "dead files" to examine, much less paid her up to $1000 per hour to do so.   Not a single public State Police agency across the U.S. reported sanctioning or paying fees to psychic investigators over the last several years even as Renier is claiming some did.

Publicly funded police payments paid to outside investigators are normally easily obtained from public records ---particularly when her fees for these alleged cases appear to exceed $350,000.   So where is the proof that police agencies ever actually paid for her services?   Is it possible that instead of police paid and sanctioned cases linked to Renier that actually 600 or so cases exist only in her mind?

This seems plausible when one examines even a short list of Noreen Renier's informants.

Renier recently revealed that she had a lengthy conversation where she "chattered long and interestingly" and was able to get her informant to reveal previously unknown events, including where a river once flowed and how and where a fight had taken place.   And who was this psychic informant?   Amazingly Renier claims this vast and informative conversation took place with an oak tree.

Renier describes the results of her talks with a mighty oak in her book A Mind For Murder and writes that at one point "suddenly I was told by the ancient oak, 'We have one fear and that is fire. Would you mind not smoking while touching me?'"

Renier doesn't offer any proof that this particular tree --- or other trees she notes --- actually respond but compounds her claim by insisting that a group of "archaeologists had their tape recorders whirring and were taking fast and furious notes" as she described this tree event.  Renier seems to claim that her psychic communication with trees can also help archaeologists reveal past histories using oak trees as witnesses.

Trees are in her mind credible witnesses that "see" events around them and have memories.

Among her other key informants are multi-dimensional entities who Renier claims help make contact with the dead.   In a courtroom and under oath she described one of these spiritual entities by the name Robert and yet another of her guides is an "oriental" she calls Sing.

Noreen Renier even claims she can communicate among the 57 million people who die each year and reach out to specific spirits.

In a courtroom in 1986 Renier said she helped resolve a case that was bothering a "ghost" and after helping the ghost both whirlpools and toilets stopped overflowing. 

Psychic exaggeration isn't just whimsical or quirky, it may be dangerous.   Time wasted by professional law enforcement personnel is time taken from professionally solving cases.   And descriptions of rapists and other criminals furnished by psychics have repeatedly been shown as more likely to visualize a completely innocent victim.   And when false credentials are used by psychics the result is public confusion that misrepresents the actual policies of authentic professional investigators.

The Office of Human Resources at Santa Fe Community College in Gainesville, Florida confirmed in late 2008 that Renier has never been a "adjunct faculty member" as she lists herself on her web site.   Instead she was listed in "an unclassified part-time position" connected to a community forum discussing psychic powers.  

But Noreen Renier's web site goes far beyond raising her status at small community colleges.   She claims she is an "adjunct faculty member" with "teaching appointments" from major colleges and universities including the University of Florida, the University of Delaware, and the University of Virginia.

Yet calls made to these major academic centers reveal she was never an accredited faculty member, faculty associate or even faculty assistant.   Among the official adjunct faculty member listings throughout all of the accredited departments across these universities there are no listings for Noreen Renier.   None.   Ever.

And not surprisingly Renier herself also has no four year degree --- much less any college teaching degree --- from any accredited college or university.

Among the law enforcement agencies and criminal justice institutions where she claims she has "lectured and given classes" and listed on her 2008 web site is the Virginia Bureau of Forensic Science.  Though she showcases this work she doesn't reference when or for how long these "law enforcement lectures and classes" occurred.

And after requesting public disclosures from the Virginia Bureau of Forensic Science and getting a response this listing also seems a minor point.   Incredibly Renier apparently made only a single very brief appearance before this forensic group during a retraining seminar more than 26 years ago on September 24, 1982.   She was one guest among many and was not among those selected to attend later seminars and lectures.

Many of her claims during the past 30 years are simply blatant fantasies.

Noreen Renier states on her web site "I gladly subjected myself to five years of laboratory testing at PRF and at Duke University.  They tested me for psychometry by sealing personal objects like combs and watches in envelopes; I touched them and described their owners.  They tested for telepathy by having me identify symbols on cards in another room.  In the test for psychokinesis (the ability to influence physical matter), I was put in front of a computerized light system and asked to alter the light pattern by using my mind.   I was told I scored quite high in everything."

But the truth is far different.   When Renier actually testified under oath she said she couldn't remember where this testing occurred, or the names of the research testing personnel.   Neither could she later recall the names of any laboratory personnel who offered the testing, reviewed the testing, or conducted the testing during her claimed five years!   Incredibly in her court statements she could not even recall when any of this testing had ever taken place!     And under further court questioning Renier even admitted that any results of tests that found her as highly psychic was actually just "one of the exaggerations" her publicist wrote up about her.

Why then does she repeat these false claims on her posted blog?

A link examining that deception is at Noreen Renier Biography 2008: Examining a psychic charade.  

Noreen Renier has even claimed to psychically see through the clothing of the living to examine body parts!   But as with her talks with the trees, she offers no proof.  Why for example can't she get the last known address from a person who recently just died when provided with the name of this person for the first time?

Marlene Lantz Chief Deputy Coroner for McHenry County, Illinois indicated that "I asked Noreen if she would come and address the Illinois Coroner's and Medical Examiner's Association at their Spring meeting. We had worked with Noreen on a homicide case in our county and she was a great help to us. I felt it was important to let members of the Association know what a valuable tool a Psychic may be in working those troubling cases. She was both informative and entertaining."

Yet in its Fall 2008 issue, the twenty-year-old Tampa Bay Skeptics Report published a critical article by Gary Posner which states Noreen Renier performed "Watergate-worthy doctoring" within the 2008 edition of her book titled A Mind For Murder.

The November/December 2008 international CSI journal Skeptical Inquirer published a nearly identical version of Posner's article posted at A Mind for Murdergate. 

It concludes by saying that Noreen Renier's book-claim revisions "should resign her to the fact that she has handed the world a sword, and that her credibility has now been unequivocally and forevermore impeached."

The Skeptical Inquirer has some 50,000 subscribers and the Washington Post called it "A devastating exercise in debunking. . ."

Research and investigations done by the supporters of this web site led to this and other media exposés of Noreen Renier.   Among those exposés is an incredible charade where Noreen Renier claims to have been "instrumental" in locating a crashed airplane.  That case is extensively explored here.

Throughout this site we provide more than a hundred supporting documents, photographs and transcripts.

During our 3 year investigation there has been a sudden nose-dive in police and private families asking for psychic help or in locating missing persons.

And in late 2008 police agency fall off for psychic assistance came to a virtual stand still across the United States.

No psychic discoveries --- or even coincidental lucky guesses --- have now occurred for over 10 years under this improved scrutiny of psychic claims by major police departments.   

After reviewing more than 20 years of data major law enforcement agencies have now decided that thousands of even unresolved cold cases should no longer be corrupted or examined by psychics.

Does any rational person want a psychic describing to a police artist what a criminal looked like --- particularly a psychic who just moments before walked by an innocent victim after talking with a tree?

What might first seem of little consequence could potentially place an innocent victim behind bars.

The few minor match-ups by crime solving psychics has never been significant in resolving any U.S. criminal case or placing a criminal behind bars.   Critics who claim otherwise amazingly cite for their key support many of the dramatic psychic cases exposed here as either documented media errors or complete psychic shams!

It's not a coincidence that the TV psychic shows must now turn to the smallest police agencies who lack budgets for credible forensic labs and have poorly trained professional detectives or paranormal inclined coroners.  Are they the easiest for psychics to impress or to fool?

To best illustrate the concerns encountered with crime psychics "the most credible" TV psychic detective and her 30-years of claims were carefully examined from mid 2005 through November 2008.

Among these publicly reported claims:

Renier's awareness of being burned alive and stabbed in the head but suffering no physical scars.

Her ability to block billiard balls in a game of pool using her psychic powers.

Causing lights to flash on and off using only her mind.

Watching pendulums swing over maps as a means to locate missing persons

Psychically seeing through human clothing as referenced on a national TV show.

Being a host provider and mystic medium for two entities Noreen Renier calls Sing and Robert.

Finding a crashed plane which had mysteriously vanished from the sky.

Describing the death scene of four people accurately and exactly as they were found.

Subjecting herself to five years of laboratory testing and being told she scored quite high in everything

Levitating her own children.

Being an adjunct faculty member with teaching appointments at major universities and colleges.

Successful psychic healing which avoided a woman from needing a medical operation.

Changing physical matter and room temperatures with her mind.

Presenting herself as an amazing psychic criminologist.

 

Our growing audience includes law enforcement personnel and worldwide families of missing persons who considered using psychics but now write us for helping them better understand the consequences.

Many of Renier's supporters are not aware that a Washington federal court ordered judgments against her in late 2006 and also in April 2007.   This is clearly troubling since as a "super psychic" she claims amazing powers of foresight yet in a courtroom setting she repeatedly failed to see her own outcome.

In 2007 a Washington U.S. District court judge even ordered her to pay one of her oldest critics --- John Merrell --- nearly $40,000 and stated ". . . the record before the court shows that it is impossible that Ms. Renier breached the agreement in this case without some level of fault.  She knew or should have known of the agreement, and breached it nonetheless."   Amazingly on Renier's 2008 blog she never mentions the state or federal lawsuits brought by Merrell and won in 2006 and 2007, but instead only notes a 1986 decision she won against Merrell in a small county court.

Renier never seemed particularly worried beforehand about the latest federal lawsuit brought by Merrell and told a Charlottesville Virginia journalist that "after I win" the journalist could follow-up.  Instead she was hit with stunning losses and debts estimated to exceed $143,000 which can be examined by clicking here with a litigation review with key legal filings shown at federal judgment against Noreen Renier.

A 30-year critical biography of Renier can be examined at Noreen Renier Biography 2008: Examining a psychic charade and is provided with a return to this HOME page.

You may have found this web site after viewing a TV psychic show or reading about police psychics, crime psychics, psychic detectives, Noreen Renier, pseudo psychics, psychic investigators, or psychics working with the FBI.

This web site took its name from the 2005 book titled A Mind for Murder by Noreen Renier and co-author Naomi Lucks which is shown on the left below.  The new solo 2008 edition now credited only to Renier is on the right. 

In comparing the 2005 edition with the May 2008 revised edition of A Mind for Murder the names of police departments, descriptions of characters, geographic locations as seen in her visions, and even the names of key characters change.

The Burrville Police department Renier notes in the first 2005 edition becomes the Hampton Police department in 2008.   A woman she recalled in her visions as Sally and described in 2005 became a Cindy when she recalled the same vision in her 2008 edition.

Her 2005 description of a man she claims she visioned years ago as big and strong with longish black hair with a white stripe radically changed to a thinned faced man with a scar and brown hair when she recalled the same vision in her 2008 second edition.  

When discussing murder victims killed by John W. Gacy she claims she first visioned a "Rob" in her 2005 edition though police verified three victims named Robert were among those killed.   But rather than indicating to readers which of the three Roberts she visioned she changes her story once again in 2008.

Her claim to having visioned any "Rob" most recently is now a "Jim" that she visioned instead.

Yet the victim "James" was already reported and established by the police years before!  

In the latest edition of A Mind For Murder author Renier also has changed major claims about how she located passengers and bodies amid a crashed plane.

Writing on her current blog Renier notes "I can fly above the body anywhere from 20 to 100 feet, giving them landmarks so they know where I am.  Or I can go on the ground and lead them from the last place where that person was seen for the last time to where the body is.  I'm like a radar machine that picks up the energy from objects and people."

Yet the facts examined and documented here show a "radar machine" badly out of sync with realities as Renier falsely portrayed a crash scene and the locations of four real people that she never knew or met.   In 2007 this prompted a family member of one of the killed passengers to label Noreen Renier's crash portrayal "a monstrous lie."

Even a witness to the actual plane crash stated "There is no way she had anything to do with finding the plane. . . there is no way she could have."

Indeed it was during an examination of Renier's own statements about the plane crash events and being "instrumental" in locating the plane that her exaggerations became a "psychic charade bombshell" as extensively outlined at Psychic Renier claims to find a crashed plane: A fantasy a runway long .   That investigation includes interviews with the real witnesses who found the plane and had never heard of Renier!

Yet even this charade was actually further compounded by Renier when in the 2005 edition of her book A Mind For Murder she claimed her visions of the plane crash site intersected at three towns beginning with the initials H, D and A.

Because in the 2008 edition of her book she substituted the letters H, D, and A and replaced them with three new letters and changed their meaning!   This "Watergate-worthy doctoring" by missing person psychic Noreen Renier came only after one critic showed in 2006 that Renier's first set of initials matched the wrong plane crash.

Noreen Renier has stated "Skepticism is healthy - everyone should have it.  What annoys me is when people try to debunk me without listening to the facts."

But a true failure is when a person only further compounds their mistakes.  And on this web site you can actually listen and hear Renier change her plane crash story for even a third time!

Noreen Renier has also failed on her web site and in her latest book to mention why she needed to edit out more than 50 of her previous references to critic John Merrell including her false statements that he lied in a court room.

And Renier hasn't mentioned on her web site that on March 31, 2008 a United States Bankruptcy Court granted her a second Chapter 7 bankruptcy within 10 years, but this time a U.S. Bankruptcy Trustee continues to oversee Renier's assets to pay creditors, including royalties collected from her revised 2008 edition of A Mind For Murder.

Critics ask why this self-described "super psychic" needs to repeatedly declare bankruptcy.

Yet far more disturbing than what's been happening in courtrooms are the disturbing revelations discovered about Renier's many psychic claims.  

"Psychic detective Noreen Renier has showcased astonishing exaggerations in materials she provided to newspaper journalists.  According to her own court testimony some exaggerations were created by her publicist for promotional materials.   Other fabrications are those Renier passed along to media with errors that Renier admitted she never corrected.   But most disturbing are the falsehoods Renier conveys as true in her own books, before TV viewers, and even before a jury.   Police psychic Noreen Renier has invented bogus fantasies and then portrayed herself as capable of incredible paranormal and criminology feats.   She name drops law personnel and crime agencies even as she rapid-fires streams of pseudo psychic claims.  The public should know her exaggerations are so convincing and elaborately detailed that even after they are discovered people remain astounded by her boldness."

Noreen Renier labeled critic Merrell who made that comment "a fraud" and her web site until mid January 2008 called him both "vicious" and "vindictive."   While that commentary disappeared Renier now has posted statements about winning an Oregon county libel lawsuit against Merrell more than 22 years ago.

Not posted however is that Merrell always disputed the 6-member jury decision and in 2006 he located additional witnesses who publicly stated Renier lied as covered at Runway Part 2: A cover-up before millions of TV viewers.

Remember we're reviewing here "the most credible" crime psychic.   This is the psychic that leading members within the psychic community (and many media journalists) have "documented" as the one with the most amazing "proven" psychic abilities.

Noreen Renier's 1985 Oregon attorney Lee Werdell has now provided Renier with a 21 page 11,974 word wandering discourse on the events more than two decades ago when he supported Renier.

Years after representing Renier in 1985 lawyer Lee Werdell was initially charged with two counts of hindering prosecution by allegedly destroying evidence in an unrelated case.

Medford Oregon attorney Lee Werdell admitted he tossed a revolver into the deep Applegate public reservoir in southern Oregon --- a questionable action for anyone conscious of metallic content in the environment --- but an extraordinary item for the attorney psychic Renier states "saved my reputation" to have hidden beneath a public water source.  

Attorney Lee Werdell states that "Noreen’s testimony was clear and to the point. She answered questions without equivocating or being evasive."

But facts show Renier portrayed deceptively false visions in describing events during her testimony.   And equally revealing are witnesses who can show that in 2008 Noreen Renier continues to repeat deceptions and errors from her earlier 2005 edition of A Mind For Murder --- even after knowing her statements are false.

Renier's use of being "instrumental" in her psychic abilities has come up before, including a case in Staunton Virginia where she claimed to news reporters that she had foreseen a direct link to a rape suspect.

She claimed her psychic foresight had allowed her to see even prior to his arrest that the rapist would be the driver of a cement truck.

In her revised 2008 edition of A Mind For Murder she claims she described to police that "the rapist is driving a truck with something on it that goes round and round."

When the rapist was arrested it turned out he had indeed driven a cement truck.   This amazing psychic link has been widely credited to Renier and obviously even in her latest book she continues to use it.

But is it true?  What did Renier specifically say prior to his arrest about a cement truck?

Asked about the case by an attorney in 1985 senior officials acknowledged Renier's claim was not true.  Prior to the arrest there was no mention by Renier of a truck or something on a truck going round and round.   Nothing.

Instead an investigation revealed she actually created the link after the use of a cement truck was established and her only "pre-vision" was a paper filled with circles she had drawn.

These circles she insisted were not a dozen zeros, or the letter "O" repeated, or even what they appeared to be by someone who saw them as simply scribbles made by a woman who had consumed too much red wine.  Instead Renier insisted her circles showcased her visions of a truck "going round and round."

Even now on her current web site blog she claims "Everything I'd said turned out to be right; the thing 'that went round and round' was a cement truck."

Thousands of readers and dozens of newspapers and TV reporters were never told this claim is fantasized fiction.

Critics also raise concerns about her psychic abilities --- if any --- in fingering a guilty suspect from one who is innocent.   And many of Renier's TV viewers find these issues troubling indeed.

While other psychics such as Carla Baron (click here) have garnished media attention, major psychics Sylvia Brown, Zak Martin and John Edward (unlike Noreen Renier) have not testified to such an extensive array of claims under oath.

Now 71 years old, it was common from 1985 until 1998 for Noreen Renier to mention the work of law enforcement personnel in solving cases and bringing criminals to justice.   However over the past few years Renier has begun taking credit for some knock-out punches herself.

During a July 22, 2004 Court TV on-line interview Noreen Renier referenced her work for a woman on a double homicide in Albany, New York.   Renier claimed “I put her son in jail.” 

She further emphasized that "I've worked on over 450 cases. . . when the police hire me, that's usually 70 percent of the time. . . I've put people in jail." 

Noreen Renier has also begun offering comments to the media about suspects such as her statement following psychic visions in the Laci Peterson case when she stated ". . . all my instincts, my intuition, give me no doubt that he did it."

Has she fairly portrayed herself as a participant in putting people in jail?   And how is she motivated?

Renier has long stated she charges for her work --- even to police working on rape cases and murder --- and her fees have climbed from $45 for a 45-minute phone conversation to far higher as her TV fame has spread.   Renier told the Lynchburg News & Advance in 2005 that "I've got more work than I can handle."   Indeed she bumped her fees to $250, then $450, then $600, and now to a cool $1000.

"I actually raised the price to discourage people" stated Renier.

How long might $1000 get you with Renier on the telephone?

As posted in December 2007 on Renier's own blog, she stated "I'm older now, so I can't last more than an hour per session."

According to her 2007 bankruptcy filing (she previously declared a Chapter 7 bankruptcy in Florida in 1999), Renier paid attorney and former TV producer Shelley Hall with the Seattle law firm Stokes Lawrence just $1000 leaving unpaid bills of $26,214.  That equates to a payment rate near $8.20 per hour for her Seattle attorney while Renier's own psychic charges to clients are $8.33 to $16.66 per minute or approximately 60 to 120 times more.  

Noreen Renier said she proved "I was a real psychic and had done the things I claimed I did."

Noreen Renier's most notable claim to fame is that she is the only psychic to have briefly lecture at the FBI.   And Renier became involved in the plane crash after an FBI agent recommended Renier to the ex-wife of an FBI agent who had a brother aboard the lost plane.

During the air seach for the missing plane a third FBI agent was involved.

Why did a FBI Special Agent recommend the use of Noreen Renier's psychic powers to help locate the plane?

What was the track record of Boston area FBI investigations during this period?

In late July 2007 a federal judge in near-by Boston highlighted a cozy relationship that Boston mobsters enjoyed with FBI agents.   Judge Nancy Gertner noted that FBI agents were trying to protect informants when they encouraged a witness to lie, and thereafter withheld evidence proving four men were innocent.   That kept four men in prison for decades for a murder they did not commit.

Judge Nancy Gertner ordered the government to pay nearly $102 million in part due to the severe misconduct by FBI agents Dennis Condon and H. Paul Rico, including the withholding of evidence in the murder of Edward "Teddy" Deegan.  

At the same time the FBI was funneling false information to the Massachusetts governor’s office and withholding evidence, an FBI agent was tossing out Noreen Renier as a means to locate a missing plane in Massachusetts with drugs aboard.

Two years later in 1986 a six-member jury thousands of miles away in Oregon apparently bought the fantasy that psychic Noreen Renier found the Massachusetts plane as authentic particularly after hearing about significant FBI personnel support of Renier.

Adding support for Renier during three days of testimony was FBI Special Agent Robert Ressler and also Jessica Herbert's ex-husband FBI agent Mark Babyak.   Ressler is the former director of the FBI's Violent Criminal Apprehension Program --- the man who coined the phrase 'serial killer.'   The same age as Renier, Robert Ressler's involvement with Renier is extensive.   According to Renier the man describes her as "the best" and Ressler sanctioned her use in locating the crashed plane.   But even before testifying on behalf of Renier it was Ressler who misled Merrell by telling him the plane had crashed in Maryland when in fact it had crashed in Massachusetts.

Robert Ressler during his work at the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit may well have propelled paranormal psychic involvement on missing person cases more than anyone else in the last 25 years --- including the airplane crash were Renier's claims have now been labeled as "lies" by witnesses.

Throughout this web site we examine Robert Ressler's support in using the paranormal and psychic powers of Noreen Renier.  We also highlight key differences between Renier's claims and the actual realities --- such as in these samples:

1. In the Charlottesville Daily Progress on April 25, 2004 Noreen Renier stated, "I can find an airplane thousands of miles away, but I can get lost in my own house."

FACT: While her quote sounds good about getting lost in her own house --- a quote she has used repeatedly with media --- for the last six years her home has been a 1680 square foot cabin with approximately half of that area being a single room basement.

The remaining small main floor is laid out so that the front doorway or kitchen/living room are immediately visible from any doorway. 

While the quote reflects her ability for comic spin it is not accurate.   More importantly, the crashed plane was less than 470 miles away from her Charlottesville area home and it was found by two people entirely independent of Noreen Renier who remain troubled that Renier claims to have located the same plane.

These same witnesses point to a string of false claims by Renier surrounding the crash which she portrayed as true.   Events Renier spoke about simply didn't happen.   And entire environments and incidents she writes about are fiction.  

2.  Noreen Renier noted "When they found the plane the two people in the front --- their necks were broken and [passenger Arthur Herbert] had carried a headless woman and sat this headless woman against a tree and walked several yards away."   Arthur's sister Jessica Herbert testified Renier told her that her brother "had left the plane and set the girl in a hard place with trees above her and she was laying on the rocks underneath the trees. . . and he went down this hill to look for help [and] had to sit down because the pain in his leg was bad."

But oddly Jessica Herbert further testified that according to Renier's vision the young woman was alive --- not headless. 

FACT: Amazingly it doesn't matter whether the young woman carried by Arthur Herbert was headless or alive when she was carried out of the plane.

The reality is that the medical examiner found that none of the passengers could have carried the female passenger anywhere, as everyone died on impact.

In her 2005 edition of A Mind For Murder Renier described telling Jessica Herbert that her brother Arthur Herbert was in Renier's vision a young man with "blond, straight hair to his shoulders."   In the 2008 edition of the same book she claims she told Jessica in her visions she saw Arthur with "medium length hair, light brown."

But beyond the length and hair color change, why did Renier describe before millions of TV viewers that Arthur Herbert was alive after the crash?

Remember upon examining the crash site the medical examiner concluded Arthur Herbert died instantly, and also found the young woman's body still within the aircraft.

What's stunning is that the medical examiner released these findings --- facts in direct conflict with Arthur Herbert being alive and carrying the young woman from the plane --- two years before the conflicting court testimony made under oath by both Renier and Jessica Herbert.   And even more incredible is that Renier actually further enhanced this charade before a national TV audience six years later!

In February 2005 Noreen Renier described herself as a "super psychic" and Renier's web site claims that "Court TV online recently called her the most credible psychic out there."   Yet this quote was never taken from officials at Court TV which in early 2008 changed its name to truTV.   Instead the quote comes from an on-line web site moderator who was somewhat confused and reflected that "Ms. Renier seemed like the most credible psychic out there."

Renier's web site states that she "considers herself a born skeptic.  But the sudden onset of her psychic abilities changed not only her beliefs but the course of her life and career."

Critic John Merrell calls that "Rubbish!  Many indications point to Renier as a 'psychic-want-to-be' even from her very first media interviews.   Some her earliest claims included contacting the dead and encouraging her clients to make contact with deceased relatives, friends or famous people.   Indeed under oath she admitted she acts as a dual entity host for two helpful contactees named Robert and Sing." 

In 1985 Renier personally handed out promotional materials which included the statement that ". . .questions may be posed to 'Sing' and 'Robert,' Noreen's two main spiritual entities."  Critic Merrell admits no one except Renier knows whether she actually communicates with famous dead people and how long that list might be.   Perhaps in Renier's mind the contact is made by her entities who apparently are dead themselves before they then speak to others.

Merrell commented "Exactly how far these bizarre claims go depends on whether or not you believe famous people would converse with a woman like Renier who charges for their contact.   I can't disprove that Renier actually communicates with the dead and/or has entities that communicate with the dead.   However I personally believe famous people even if they could communicate back to the living would reach out for anyone other than Noreen Renier given her exaggeration record."

Merrell stated that "One lady told me that she and her husband were asked for two hundred dollars by Renier in order to converse with a Marion Morrison several years after his death.  The skeptical husband made his wife agree beforehand to offer up only the name the person was born under.   Renier apparently stumbled about not quite sure whether Marion was a woman or a man until the husband decided to at least assist by indicating the person was a man who also had gone by the name Duke and provided his place of birth and death."

The feedback they received through Renier from a dead Marion Morrison didn't match the Marion Morrison the couple were after even after more help to Renier.   The couple was attempting to connect to actor John Wayne originally born as Marion Robert Morrison.   Even with his birthplace, death location, age and birth name Renier completely missed the mark.

According to Merrell another woman claimed she called Renier hoping that as a psychic Renier would visionalize the location of a lost bracelet.

"However when Renier was unable to visionalize where it might be found Renier and according to the woman suggested making contact with deceased actor Cary Grant who had played a jewel thief in the movie To Catch A Thief.   The woman who was already dissatified declined the additional offer, but others also have indicated Renier referenced Cary Grant among her contacts."

A complete list of famous dead people that Renier claims to have contacted or chain-contacted through one or more of her entities is known only within the mind of Noreen Renier.

More than 25 years ago Renier was also claiming she had the ability to block billiard table shots with her mind and newspaper interviews indicate she was attempting to find missing persons using swaying pendulums hung over maps.

Not surprisingly Renier has even claimed to levitate her own children.

In fact Renier's relationship with her critics leaves little doubt about her openness to scrutiny.   She previously included commentary on her web site which portrayed her principal critic as "vicious", "vindictive" and "vexing".

Did Renier carefully select a man to deliver this string of comments for her web site?  Are his comments credible?

Not likely.   The man whom Renier sanctioned for commentary operates from his home an effort he calls the Washington DC Citizens Against UFO Secrecy and has voiced numerous sensational CIA, UFO and paranormal comments for years.  

 What other evidence explored on this web site indicates a psychic charade?  

In 1985 a letter concerning Noreen Renier arrived in the mail to investigator John Merrell.   It includes the comment "I'm confused about her abilities and need to know if she's real or not.  She's planning a workshop in July and I need to make a decision."  The letter was signed by Nancy Uzdavinis --- a woman who showed an Oregon address.

That letter arrived to Merrell's home months before Renier filed a county lawsuit in Oregon against Merrell for libel.   But years after Renier won her county lawsuit in 1986 against Merrell an amazing discovery was made.  Multiple letters including the first one sent to Merrell were found.

Each letter was signed in Nancy Uzdavinis' name but each one was discovered to have been written by Noreen Renier herself!

It was only after being challenged in a Tennessee federal court years later that Renier admitted to writing the letters herself --- and filed an affidavit which indicated permission to do so came from the real Nancy Uzdavinis who was her sister-in-law.  Merrell notes that "I've always suspected that affidavit was itself a bogus fantasy since when I spoke to the real Nancy Uzdavinis by phone she acted very nervous about being confronted with why she had provided permission and wasn't willing to actually vocalize that she had in fact given it."

Unfortunately the deceptive letters that triggered examinations of Renier by Merrell were revealed years after the six member jury in the Oregon county court had ruled against Merrell in 1986.

And even then they were only discovered because Merrell began to sense he had been "set up" years earlier by Nancy Uzdavinis and wondered why she had first sought him out so urgently only to "disappear" once the lawsuit by Renier had begun.   It was 1991 before he realized the Nancy Uzdavinis letters in his hands were actually written, mailed and responded to by Noreen Renier herself.

The original six member jury in 1986 Oregon jury years before never knew this truth.   Amazingly one of the questions posed by Noreen Renier about herself --- in another letter Renier signed as Nancy Uzdavinis --- is the question "Is she a phony?"

Merrell notes, "It's not just the fact Renier pretended to be someone else.   Over many years she repeatedly has told the paranormal community that I started this 22-year battle.   But her deception had already begun when I first opened my mail from Renier posing as Nancy Uzdavinis and asking for my help.   Why did Renier need to pretend to be her sister-in-law and send letters to skeptics asking for help in determining whether she is authentic?   Does the word entrapment months before filing a libel suit seem reasonable?   And why didn't Renier ever let the 1986 jury in on this secret little game she played?"

Amazingly in 1986 Noreen Renier claimed truth was her ally in winning her case.

Merrell's 1987-1992 attorney Philip Lomonaco noted "Noreen Renier lied under oath when she stated she was not aware of any investigation of herself by John Merrell . . . In actuality, Noreen Renier deceived John Merrell by sending him letters under the disguise of Nancy Uzdavinis. . . .In other words, Ms. Renier, through her deceitful letters, under the name of Nancy Uzdavinis, began the whole process, which culminated in Ms. Renier perjuring herself in an attempt to conceal the fact that she knew of John Merrell's investigation. . . .Mr. Merrell was unaware that Noreen Renier had led him to investigating herself.  One truism rings clear in this whole situation; these parties would not be together had it not been for Ms. Renier's deceitful beginnings."    And a statement provided to a federal court judge from a handwriting expert indicates Renier wrote letters to at least two skeptic writers using the name Nancy Uzdavinis.

On February 11, 2008 a United States Bankruptcy Trustee conducted an examination of Ms. Renier, under oath.   She was questioned about her sources of income, including police and private readings, television appearances, and her book royalties.  After initially filing statements which showed her personal income over 30 months beginning in January 2005 was near $40,544 Renier suddenly revised the number upward by more than $100,000.

How does one --- particularly someone claiming psychic abilities --- misplace amounts greater than $100,000?

A general reading of this web site typically takes an additional 10 minutes to 4 hours depending on the dose of amazement you seek.   If you want a good 10-15 minute overview on her claims take a look at her biography coverage segment below or if you have 30-90 minutes segments 4 -7 take you through the plane crash charade as it unfolded over the past 20 years.  Thanks for your time and we'd appreciate your comments which are kept confidential (unless you indicate otherwise) at amindformurder@gmail.com.